HomeMy WebLinkAboutButte Cty Fair - Bred & Owned Classes & Breeding Rabbit Showmanship (2) Sweeney, Kathleen
From: Bennett, Robin
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 4;03 PM
To: Hahn, Paul; Sweeney, Kathleen
Cc: Teeter, Doug
Subject: FW: Butte County Fair- Bred & Owned Classes and Breeeding Rabbit Showmanship..
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To: Connelly, Bill; Wahl, Larry; Kirk, Maureen; BCS District 4; Teeter, Doug
Subject: Fwd: Butte County Fair- Bred &Owned Classes and Breeeding Rabbit Showmanship..
Butte County Board of Supervisors;
I am copying the board of supervisors since I found in the Butte County Registry, dated Thursday, October 10, 2013, that
the Fair board "shall act in an advisory capacity to the board of supervisors concerning conduct and the management of
the Butte County Fair," Not sure if you are all aware but the fair board sometimes makes rash decisions without gathering
all the facts and weighing all the factors involved. Please read the e,mails that have been sent to the fair board and copied
to others. 'l for see more emails coming in on the same issues and I am planning on forwarding them to all of you as they
come in so you know the extent of this issue.
Thank you for listening,
Sandra Toews
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Subj: RE: Butte County Fair
Circle J Livestock
3838 Circle J Road
Chico, CA 95928
January 26, 2015
Butte County Fair Board
199 Hazel St
Gridley, CA 95948
Dear Butte County Fair Board:
I would like to add my support to the request coming from your community to reinstate the Bred by Exhibitor
classes. I totally understand that the classes are typically undersubscribed and more disturbing to our family was
that a handful of exhibitors through the years entered (and sometimes won)these classes when it was really a
relative who was the breeder and care-giver and not the 4-H or FFA member. This fact is hard to police, I get it!
With those two obstacles being known, I still believe this is one way to recognize the kids who feed and care for
their breeding stock 2417, 365 days/year. There are the many hours all night watching animals who are ready to
give birth, there are the multitudes of hours spent cleaning stalls and barns, hauling hay and feed, treating
animals for diseases, trimming feet, there is the worry as they wait for the veterinarian to care for their sick
animal, the countless hours fitting show strings in addition to their market animal that the majority of the kids do
not have to do in the 60-120 days that they care for a market animal that someone else got through the difficult
stages. I could go on and on.
Please consider our request. If I have guessed correctly as to your reasons for cancelling them, I wish I could
offer a solution. I believe there are many of us willing to sponsor the awards for the classes, and they really do
not take too much extra time for the judge to evaluate. It is also a GOLDEN opportunity for the judge to teach
the exhibitors and audience about the species, what to look for in breeding animals, etc. I believe our county
fairs should be educational events as well as a place to make a little money. Thank you for your time to read this
email.
Respectfully,
Christie Boggs, Leader/Breeder/Mother of Past Exhibitors, Danielle and Marcee Boggs
530-330-3838
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Subj: Butte County Fair- Bred & Owned Classes and Breeeding Rabbit Showmanship Classes
January 26, 2015
Dear Butte County Fair Board;
I heard as well that the board voted on removing all the"bred and owned" classes and to not allow the Rabbit
Breeding kids that win in their showmanship divisions during the rabbit show to compete in the Round Robin
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competition. I am saddened by this news and I hope I am misinformed, but if it is true, then I respectfully request
you read the following information and reconsider your decision.
I know that this fair has strived to make the competition even across species for everyone. In the past, if you
created a class for one livestock species you always tried to make sure that same class is offered to all the other
species. Which is admirable. The breeding rabbits is where this fair falls short. Not sure if you are aware but all
other species can show a breeding animal in showmanship if they so choose, and have another species entered
in a market class. But in rabbits there is no class for this. The fair currently only offers showmanship to those who
bring rabbit meat pens. So you are excluding an entire breeding species class. I see only two choices. One, you
allow the Showmanship winners that compete during the ARBA(American Rabbit Breeders Association) show to
compete in round robin, or two, you allow those kids with breeding rabbits to bring a rabbit to the fair and have
those rabbits on display the entire time of the fair and compete at the same time as the meat pen exhibitors.
Eliminating the showmanship class that takes place during the ARBA show altogether, basically merging the
rabbit showmanship into one event during the fair. In my opinion the showmanship winners during the ARBA
show is the better choice since small animal round robin usually consists of rabbits, chickens and maybe Pigmy
goats, so if you add in an extra rabbit winner it gives some more competition to the group. But that is just my take
on it. Competition is a good thing. For those of you who are not familiar with the Showmanship that takes place
during the ARBA show it is a completely separate event. The actual rabbit show follows the ARBA standards for
judging a rabbit which judges the conformation of the rabbit as it compares to the ARBA standard for the
particular breed. Whereas the showmanship portion is a separate event judged by a "showmanship judge" not
the ARBA judge. The youth competitors wear their 4-H whites or the FFA uniform while they compete. The
competition can be as individual or as a group of 4-5, that is the judge's decision. Usually at smaller turnouts it is
one-on-one. If the judge chooses to do one-on-one judging, it is a completely verbal presentation. The participant
explains in detail everything you look for in a rabbit, and at the end questions are asked based on the age of the
participant. This is much more in-depth and informative than when you show large livestock. Please consider
making a decision to include the breeding rabbit exhibitors in the showmanship competition that allows them to
compete in the round robin,just like all the other species are allowed to do.
As for the "Bred and Owned" classes, I know that this year there was an uprising about someone who might
have been untruthful about their animal, and if it was owned at conception. I thought this issue was resolved. I
would like the board to reconsider keeping these classes at the fair. This fair relies on the honor system for pretty
much everything, from still exhibits to even the market animals. The Butte County Fair does not require the
current"livestock entry form"to have the animals "scrapie" tag listed on it when submitted to the fair. The fair
does not even make note of the "scrapie" tag number until the market animal passes thru the scale at the fair. So
basically anyone could buy and animal the day before the fair if they chose to do so. This fair does not require
any bill of sale or photos of animals that are entered. They ask that the exhibitor have the animal for 60 days
prior to the fair, but it does not require any proof. So the honor system is already in place for the over 250 market
animals you have at the sale each year. We have all these young kids that raise their own animals and now are
being "punished" because of a little controversy. These kids work very hard at raising animals all year long, not
just for 60 days like the majority of the market showmen, and they should be able to show off their hard work and
compete against one another, which is what the county fair is for. I would hope that if someone is untruthful
about the origin of their animal, that they would have to live with that dishonesty, but why should all the other
hard working kids have to suffer? Not only will you have disappointed kids, that have already bred for this 2015
fair and are looking forward to competing this year, but don't forget all the people and business who sponsor the
awards for these bred and owned classes. These donors might consider twice about donating again if you take
away something they are passionate about. These donors try to honor kids that go the extra mile to breed their
own livestock and some of these kids even use the sires that these donors provide to them to breed their dams .
Which if they win their class this promotes the donors herd as well. By dropping this class you will have
somewhat of a domino effect and not only disappoint the kids that have worked hard on their breeding programs,
but disappointed breeders and donors as well. Please reexamine all the facts and reconsider leaving the bred
and owned class in the fair book.
I did some research and found a document from another state for"bred and owned market animals", maybe the
BCF could use this document as an example to meet their needs.
I know the fair board has a lot on their plate, not only dealing with the livestock portion of the fair but all the other
working to make the fair profitable and to keep it going year after year during the actual "fair" and throughout the
rest of the year . I am sure it is not an easy task for anyone to be on the board in addition to their daily lives. I am
respectfully requesting that the board please add these two items back on the February agenda for further
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discussion and another vote. I would be happy to attend the next board meeting to help answer any further
questions if that would help in any way clarify any of these two topics .
Thank you for your time and consideration in these matters.
Sincerely,
Sandra Toews
Shasta 4-H
530-894-1241
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Subject: Butte County Fair
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30 Parkhurst St
Chico, CA 95928
January 26, 2015
Butte County Fair Board
199 Hazel St
Gridley, CA 95948
Dear Butte County Fair Board:
As a parent of exhibitors of both livestock and still exhibits for the past twelve years, a 4-H leader for the past 8
years, and a former 4-H member and exhibitor, I know how important and educational a fair experience can be.
also understand how difficult it can be to put together and run an event such as the Butte County Fair. We all
appreciate the hard work and extra hours that you put in to your jobs to make this work for our youth and our
community. Thank you.
Our youth learn quite a bit raising and exhibiting a fair animal: math, language arts, public speaking, ethics,
sportsmanship and many other skills as well. For our members who are able to, they have stepped up the game
even more. They have decided to breed their own animals for fair instead of going to a breeder. They are
learning about the care and management of the animals, Al, delivery, processing, and raising young animals.
Talk about a learning curve! In a world where a lot is just handed to us, it is encouraging to see such
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hardworking youth. This is an aspect of raising livestock that should be encouraged and nurtured. That's why
we were so disheartened to learn that the board recently decided to eliminate all bred and owned classes for the
upcoming 2015 Butte County Fair. I know that these are not huge classes, but I also know that the awards for
these classes are sponsored. Our club has a young member who just started entering these classes last year;
he has learned so much through the experience of Al, caring for the sow, the farrowing, processing, and raising.
He is heartbroken that this class will not be available to him for this coming fair.
I'm not sure what the reasoning behind cutting these classes is...if it's a matter of honesty, ethics, and tracking,
I'm sure that there are ways to address that. Any youth or adult can choose to be unethical and go around rules;
that shouldn't be a reason to take away an educational opportunity for the entire youth community.
Please reconsider your decision to eliminate the bred and owned classes, if not for the 2015 fair than for the
2016. 1 am cc'ing this email to other 4-H and livestock families who may not yet be aware of this decision, and I
am doing so to encourage them to also share their thoughts with those of you on the fair board.
Thank you for your thoughts and consideration.
Sincerely,
Laurinda &Joseph Corron
530-809-0348
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Please Mark Species
—Market Beef Steer Feeder Steer
_Market Swine Market Lamb
Market Meat Goat
Bred& Owned Market Animal Certification
Due to UME office with 4-H/FFA Livestock Registration form.
This form must be completed and turned in with the 4-H livestock registration form. If the form is not
properly completed and turned in at this time, the animal will not be eligible for participation in the
Bred & Owned competition.
Breeder Certification
This is to certify that I owned the dam (mother) of this market animal prior to breeding (conception)
and I also completed and submitted a 4-H breeding project record on the species the prior year to the
UME Office.
Name : Tag#
(Print Member Name) (can list multiple tag#'s)
Signature: Date:
Please Mark Species
—Market Beef Steer Feeder Steer
_Market Swine Market Lamb
Market Meat Goat
Bred& Owned Market Animal Certification
Due to UME office with 4-H/FFA Livestock Registration Form.
This form must be completed and turned in with the 4-H livestock registration form. If the form is not
properly completed and turned in at this time, the animal will not be eligible for participation in the
Bred & Owned competition.
Breeder Certification
This is to certify that I owned the dam (mother) of this market animal prior to breeding (conception)
and I also completed and submitted a 4-H breeding project record on the species the prior year to the
UME office.
Name : Tag#
(Print Member Name) (can list multiple tag#'s)
Signature: Date: