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HomeMy WebLinkAboutM082681August 26, 1981 81- d 2308 CLOSED SESSION: The Board recessed at 11:16 a.m. to hold a closed session regarding litigation. RECONVENE: The Board reconvened at 12:27 p.m. following a closed session regarding litigation. No action taken. ZECONVENE: The Board of Supervisors met at 11:15 a.m. pursuant to recess. Present: Supervisors Dolan, Saraceni, Wheeler and Chairman Moseley Clif Nickelson, administrative officer; Del Siemsen, acting county counsel; and Clark A. Nelson, county clerk, by Cathy Pitts, assistant clerk to the Board. Absent: Supervisor Lemke RECESS: 12:28 p.m. RECONVENE: 1:43 p.m. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America Invocation by Clay Castleberry PUBLIC HEARING: 1981-82 PROPOSED BUDGET AND REVENUE SHARING FTNAL USE HEARING The public hearing on the 1981-82 proposed budget and revenue sharing final use hearing was held as continued. Jim Johansen, auditor, stated his office had provided the Board with a detailed document that represents their calculations of not only the changes that had been made but some of the routine and minor changes as well as supplemental changes before the Board. This shows a summary of all the transactions that have resulted and the adjustments the Board had made and have assumed the Board has taken this action which resulted in a net restoration to the appropriations for contingencies of a little over $500,000. There are some minor changes that have to be made. That $500,000 is also a result of the reanalysis of the changes to the anticipated revenue and some significant increases and decreases. They have no allowances for salary increases. They have not allowed for possible disallowance of the request to the state on the waiver of the Mental Health match. If the waiver does not materialize, there would be a cost to the appropriations for contingencies of approximately $200,000. The deadline for adoption of the budget is August 30, 1981. They have made no allowances for possible action with ,regard to the legal action on the Veterans Memorial Ha11s or the Sheriff's Department. The actions taken by the Board have been included in the calculations. If there is any change it would require a modification to the $500,000 added to the reserve for contingencies. Clif Nickelson, administrative officer, stated that the $500,000 that the Auditor had discussed brought the reserve up to $2,500,000. He felt the Board's chances were very slim that the Board would be able to get by without having to put up $250,000 which would bxing the appropriation for contingencies to $2,300,000. The Board may or may not decide to take action as to the Veterans Memorial Halls and the Sheriff's Department. That reduction to the $2.3 million even lower to $1.6 million or $1.7 million would have ramifications the following year. There could be disaster unless something between now and the end of the fiscal year can be done by going into all budgets and initiate some sort of additional retrenching to satisfy unsound financial picture for next year. If the salary increases come the Board will have to pay at least $130,000 for each percent of increase. if the Board flries to go into major departmental costs it will not do any good. An example is the Welfare and Health Departments. Review of re nests for revenue sriarin attoeaL~.ons Mike Pyeatt, assistant administrative officer, set out the summary of the revenue sharing requests that have been received. Page 186. August 26, 1981 August 26, 1981 81- Hearing open to the public. Appearing: ~'', 1. Marshall Ross, Chico Area Council on Aging - Meals on Wheels. Mr. Ross stated there was nothing else to present, he was here to answer any ', questions. Mr. Pyeatt advised that the Chico and Paradise Meals on Wheels were still two of the appropriations remaining. 2. Jack Brumley, representing Jake Walgenbach relative to the request submitted July 10, 1981 for money for the Gridley swimming pool. Mr. Brumley stated that the request was submitted and was rejected at that time and were told that they would be considered for revenue sharing revenue. Mr. Pyeatt advised that the earlier request was from the Recreation Bond'Act funding and the Board referred the request to revenue sharing requests. Supervisor Dolan stated that this type of request could have been applicable to the special needs of the special district augmentation funds. That one category was to be decided upon. Mr. Pyeatt stated that one of the other thing looked at was that CSA 34, Gridley Swimming Pool,-was not in the best financial status. It might be that under the CSA, they could find some funding. 3. David Ferrier, Oatalyst. Mr. Ferrier stated that Catalyst had been receiving marriage license tax money for four months. They have rented a house to be used for providing a home for domestic violence victims. By providing this home, this will reduce the number of repeat calls by the Sheriff's Department and will helg to reduce the expenses to the General Fund. They are requesting revenue sharing funds far the position of Shelter Supervisor in the amount of approximately $15,000. Clif Nickelson, administrative officer, stated that the next step to be taken by the Board would be to review the requests that have been made and review the Auditor's information relative to the current revenue sharing allocation and make a decision on those requests. The final action will have to be taken for the revenue sharing funds. If the Board takes the revenue sharing funds and provides funding for outside agencies, it will be necessary to find where the Board is going to cut from the county budget to make up that amount. That will mean that the money will have to come from the appropriations for contingencies. The only place to allocate funds is to either change the Chico and Paradise Meals on Wheels, the funds going to the Library or the funds for jail construction. If the Board touches the funds for the jail construction, :here is areal possibility this will build serious problems for the county. There is a requirement for a ten percent match for the jail construction grant. They started with the possibility of $8 million and are now down to $5 million which would need a $500,000 match. Supervisor Wheeler stated that if the county is not awarded the grant, it will cost the county $1.2 million to bring the jail up to the State Board of Corrections standards. Jim Johansen, auditor, stated that if the Board allows some ', of the requests from outside agencies, the amount of the requests will have to come out of the $500,000 increment or out of the appropriations for contingencies. He has assumed that all the revenue sharing funds would go to fund the budget. Any act~on other than funding the budget will effect the reserve. age 187• August 26, 1981 81- v' August 26 z 1981 Mr. Johansen advised that the selection of the appropriate departments to fund-from revenue sharing is based on attempting to find departments that total up to the amount of the revenue sharing available. This has to be accounted for in a separate fund. Mr. Nickelson stated that the Board considers budget transfers during the year from revenue sharing and these transfers should be considered like all the rest of the money and should be considered the same as coming from the xeserve for contingencies. Supervisor Aolan stated that three years ago the decision was made to use revenue sharing for running the operations of government. It is a funding mechanism. It was moved by Supervisor Wheeler, seconded by Supervisor Dolan that the following requests for revenue sharing be denied: 1. Feather River Senior Citizens Association in the amount of $20,000 for the purpose of funding to complete the Senior Citizens Center in Oroville. ' 2. Northern California Independent Living Program in the amount of $24,000 to pay for staff positions to provide direct assistance to program participants and $2,000 to meet matching requirements of a federal grant. 3. Concilio Mexicano de Chico, Inc. in the amount of $13,000 for he purpose of funding assistance to meet on going budgetary expenses in roviding services of information, referral, translation, representation, mmigration, and in general, acts as a "bridge" between Hispanic/American ultures and languages. 4. Family Service Association of Butte and Glenn Counties in amount of $31,810 for the purpose of providing counseling services to lies in Butte County. 5. Oroville Community Center Committee, Inc. in the amount of $18,000 for purpose of architect fees for the Oroville Community Center ', eing proposed. ', 6. Butte County Fair/Gridley Swimming Pool District (County ', Service Area No. 34) in the amount of $31,000 for the purpose of resurfacing ', of the swimming pool (fiberglassing). ', 7. Chico Visitor and Convention Bureau in-the amount of $9,750 or the purpose of 1982 tourist promotional compaign. 8. Work Training Center for the Handicapped, Inc. in the amount f $1,500 for the purpose of purchasing 295 tons of Class II aggregate base or parking lot. 9. Catalyst: Women's Advocates, Inc. in the amount of $15,207 or the purpose to establish a director/shelter supervisor positon. 10. County Fire Department in-the amount of $20,000 for the purpose f lease equipment to outfit federal excess property obtained for volunteer ire companies; in the amount of $100,000 for a new fire engine; and in he amount of $3,000 to remodel the Durham Fire Station garage to more dequately house the squad truck purchased by the volunteers. Supervisor Saraceni stated he was concerned with the denial >f the amount for the Fire Department. He wondered if they were a priority Eor the department. Page lgg. August 26, 1981 August 26y 1981 Supervisor Wheeler stated that Fire Warden Teie had obtained a fire engine for Cohasset and Forest Ranch. Maybe he could do .the same kind of trading for these engines. The last conversation she had with Mr. Teie was that he could manage. Motion amended: approval of allocation for revenue sharing to be as follows: 1. Plant acquisition, Jail Construction in the amount of $530,000 2. Plant acquisition, Library in the amount of $89,400 3. Chico Meals-on-Wheels in the amount of $8,500 4. Paradise Meals-on-Wheels in the amount of $6,200 5. Sheriff-Administration budget in the amount of $442,721 6. County Clerk budget in the amount of $487,820 7. Superior Court in the amount of $488,351 8. Oroville 3ustice Court budget in the amount of $274,26b Total allocation $2,327,258 Vote on motion: AYES: Supervisors Dolan, Saxaceni, Wheeler and Chairman Moseley NOES: None ABSENT: Supervisor Lemke Motion carried. Consideration of requests for actuarial study by Public Employees Retirement System _(PERS) Mr. Pyeatt advised that the Board had received a memo from the Personnel Director relative to the costs for the actuarial study. The estimated cost for the study as presented by Mr. Schwindeman was $700. The recommendation from the Personnel Director is to not approve the study because for the $700 cost, the Board would be finding out that the county cannot afford to pay. Lewis L. Reece stated that the Board had letters from Mr. Schwindeman which covers the justifications for their request. The retirement system was determined to be a condition of employment. kIe felt that the Board should reconsider the request for the actuarial study. Mr. Nickelson stated that the retired employees paid into the system with good money and are now being paid back in phony money. It was not the fault of the county, it was the fault of the federal government, which is inflation. There is no way to cope with that. They are all going to have to face the same problems. Mr. Rackerby has presented the Board with a report that shows the unbelieveable figure that it would cost for the two to five percent adjustment. It doesn't seem possible that for two or three percent, that it should cost one and one-half to two times what the county is putting into the system. On motion of Supervisor Wheeler, seconded by Supervisor Saraceni and carried, the retired employees actuarial study was denied for xeasons based on the recommendations b the Personnel Director. yPage 189. August 26, 1981 August 2b, 1981 $1-2309 BUDGET REVIEW v' Gonsideratios of:depattmental:biadgets held at this time. itification of specific reductions in the Pub Jim Johansen, auditor, stated that he had forwarded a summary of reductions in the Public Works Department and related departments developed as a result of meetings with Public Works staff. The total amount of reductions is $1,475,500. The projects that would remain are also listed on the summary. Hearing open to the public. Appearing: 1. Vie Delucchie, Berry Creek. A letter from Mr. and Mrs. Dale R. Austin was read at this time. The snow plowing for the road would only be one and three-fourths of a mile. He has seen the snow as high as from one to thirteen feet. Sust one rescue to help someone would pay to keep the road open. Fox safety, any county road or highway for one person that lives. on that road must be open. There is one person in the area on a life support system. The Fire Department has been up there twice the last year. He has a small tractor and has been trying to help keep the road open for this person. He asked that the Board keep the one and three-fourths mile of road open. 2. James Fink, former member of Law Enforcement Committee and member of the Fire Department. Mr. Fink stated that 80 percent of their calls are for medical aid. There are very few fires. In the winter there are chimney fires. He talked to his training officer and he suggested that he come down and voice for the Fire Department that the road should be maintained up to at least Mountain House Hotel. That road has been ogen in the past. I}t the one and one-half to two miles, there is about 60 to 65 percent of the population of Berry Creek. There is one bad curve near Brush Creek. There have been approximately five to eight people over a period of one year in the hospital as a result of that curve. There was one fatality. The CHP was to write a letter to the county concerning this curve. He has talked with Public Works and they would be willing to put up reflectors. The reflectors do not work and it would cost $25,000 for 200 feet of guard rail. He was concerned with the shape the budget was in and the county could still build two libraries. 3. Sonya Bollington, Brush Creek. Ms. Bollington stated she as an employee of Butte County. She recently had two surgeries. At Imes she is on call for her employment. It would be most difficult for er to reach her employment if there were no snow plowing services. She elt that during the five years she has been a resident of this area, the time pent for snowplowing has been minimal._ 4. Frank Walleston, Brush Creek. Mr. Walleston stated he was n employee at the alcohol center. They have been fortunate the last two ears as far as the snow has been concerned. If there were no snowplowing t would be difficult to get out to go downtown to work. He asked that he snowplowing be reinstituted in the Brush Creek area if at all possible. 5. Joseph Arland. Mr. Arland stated he was a disabled veteran nd had had 50 operations. He lives in the Brush Creek area and does not now when he will need an ambulance. He felt the snowplowing should be ontinued as in the past. Tt is very necessary. 6. Matt Siren. Mr. Siren stated he owned Mountain House Resort. ere are five cabins rented in which there are five families and five ildren living. It would be impossibleto operate the business. This business s established in 1849. If the snowpolwing was stopped the husiness ght be closed. page 190.. August 26, 1981 81= b! August 26z 1981 Clay Castleberry, public works director, stated that in the last few years the work has been minimal. The cost for snowplowing varies with the winters. He estimated that with the deletion of the roads, the county would probably save or not need in the maintenance department between $15,000 and $30,000. This could be done by reducing the employees and the overtime. In some years the cost would be three times that amount. Supervisor Wheeler asked that the status quo be maintained until Supervisor Lemke returned. A good portian of the snowplowing is in his district. She is working with the people in the Butte Meadows area. They are looking at many alternatives: maybe the people doing the snowplowing; or forming snowplowing district in the county; or the county performing the work. Mr. Castleberry set out where the snowplowing would be eliminated, if the Board took the action to leave the funds reduced. There were suggestions at a recent meeting of citizens mf the Jonesville area to charge $10 per cahin and to contract with the county for years when the snow is heavy. When the snow is not heavy, the people would do the plowing. He had indicated that an average year would cost $30,000with one-half of that being employee and one-half being equipment rental. 7. Vic Delucchie. Mr. Delucchie felt that the Board should take a vote on this today. He did not want to wait for Mr. Lemke's return. If the Board does not vote for this he will go to the state and get himself an attorney. 8. Harold Olson, postal contractor for Butte Meadows. There are 72 people with 12 Children that live in the Butte Meadows area. They spent several years trying to get postal services up there. If the roads are not plowed, there is no way there can be postal service. There has been plowing for about eight seasons in that area. The population has grown. His concern was that if something happens up there, how are the people going to get to the person that needs help. This would not be adding an5*thing to Butte Meadows. If the snowplowing is not done, it will be taking a service away from the people. Supervisor Dolan stated this presented a dile~ma for her. She represents a valley district. The district receives a great deal of rain and many of the roads are under water during the rainy season. It is a similar condition. The solution would be for the raising of the roads. The county cannot afford to raise the roads. The dilemma is that the snowplowing service is funded by all the taxpayers throughout the county. In one way it is unequal. She knew that when a service was cut, it could be perceived as very cruel. There are several roads not in the best of condition. People are hurt when people speed no matter where they are. People who live in the cities, who are very i11, get where they need to. The people who live out in the rural areas are where they chose to live. Supervisor Wheeler.stated there were three counties that have snowplowing maintenance district; Placer, Nevada and Sierra Counties. Before she has the meeting with the people from Butte Meadows, she will have checked to see what these counties are doing, and what kind of funding mechanism there is. Supervisor Saraceni felt that the county was not looking at something to put someone to work year around. This would be allocation of funds on an emergency basis co it can be used is cases of emergency arising. It does not mean the money will be spent. He felt that the roads must be kept clear for the Fire Department to use. Page 191. August 26, 1981 August 26, 1981 Chairman Moseley felt that the money should be retained in the Budget for this year and meet with the people in the areas and see if >omething could be done, either by maybe paying $10 per year per family snd contracting with Public Works to do the work. She was willing to allocate the funds for snowplowing this year. It was moved by Supervisor Saraceni, seconded by Chairman Moseley that the $30,000 in funds be retained for snowplowing purgoses this year, ($15,000 force account overtime and $15,000 road maintenance) and to meet with the people in the area and see if they can come up with some ways to handle the problem. Supervisor Wheeler stated she was also representing the urban and these people are saying they are doubly taxed to pay for services ty-wide for services being received in the rural area. Chairman Moseley stated that if Supervisor Wheeler wished to into that matter, all the people in Gridley, Biggs, Richvale and ham helped to build the two libraries in Oroville and the one in Durham. people are unhappy because the people in Chico and Gridley are going get a library. Why weren't the people up complaining about the other raries. Motion amended; working on forming of maintenance districts be considered. Vote on motion: AYES: Supervisors Dolan, Saraceni, Wheeler and Chairman Moseley NOES: None ABSENT: Supervisor Lemke Motion carried. CE55: 3:08 p.m. CONVENE: 3:21 p. m. R WHEELER ABSENT AT THIS TIME On motion of Supervisor Dolan, seconded by Supervisor Saraceni carried, the following road construction projects were adopted as set in addendum ~~1 attached to the minutes. On motion of Supervisor Dolan, seconded by Supervisor Saraceni carried, the following reductions were made in the Building Inspection Subdivision Inspection budgets: Building Inspection (440-003) budget Delete two Building inspector positions Salaries & Wages $27,733 Employee Benefits 7,861 Total $35,594 Subdivision Inspection (440-004) budget Delete Assistant Civil Engineer Add Clerk Typist T/iI Salaries & Wages $14,303 Benefits 4,323 Total $18,626 Page 192. August 26, 1981 sly ~'. August 26, 1981 Total reduction in Building Inspection and Subdivision Inspection budgets of $54,220. Consideration of departmental Assessor's budget, page 22 Ed Brown, assessor, stated the Board had received information from him relative to actual facts about funding for the Assessor's Office. The Board asked for proposals to come up with 20 percent cuts in the departments. He gave the Board information relative to this amount. As far as administrative overhead there is one person and himself. In 1979, they had six CETA appraisers. They have really lost six appraisers. SUPERVISOR WHEELER PRESENT AT THIS TIME Mr. Brown stated they reduced staffing considerably. He does not go to one-tenth of the Assessor's meetings. The last two years the state has mandated that assessors attend the meetings. He and his staff drive their own vehicles. He felt that the legal requirements of the office required consideration. There are about 70,000 parcels in Butte County with 28,000 with abase year of 1975 and the rest require people to work on them. He identified 73,200 documents. Mr. Brown set out the information he had submitted to the Board on August. l0, 1981 relative to the statistical reports for the office. The report by State Board of Equalization as part of the required assessment practice survey, it showed they were not overstaffed. The workload was not considered for taking over the mobile homes. The comment on page 1, appendix 2 shows they felt the auditor-appraisers should have been four. All those effect the revenue of the county. He did a study about one year ago on the workload of the staff by taking counties of the same number of required audits. Napa County had 1,400 audits per appraiser, Santa Cruz, 1,875 audits per appraiser, Santa Barbara 1,600 audits per appraiser, Merced 1,650 audits per appraiser and Butte County, 2,865 audits per_appraiser. This is significantly =than other counties. Appendix 3 which shows an extract of a portion of the State Board of Equalization survey shows the aspects of workload for the real property appraisers. Their conclusion on page 5 was there were about 20.9 appraisers to do the job they are doing without the mobile homes, which is easily two appraisers. Mr. Brown stated that on appendix 4 he took the counties that had been on the Administrative Office report to the Board on February 8, 1980. He used the same counties even though he felt that many of the items did not relate to workload in the offices. He took those things that must be considered by the appraisers and divided by the number of appraisers. These figures were taken from the State Board annual workload survey. He felt the statistics showed that the reduction in the personnel in the Assessor's Office that generate revenue is not only signi£ieant for the first year, but would be compounding the effect. With the staff as has been .reduced, they will not be able to do all of the value changes that should be made. He asked that the Board consider the the workload statistics as presented and consider the effect on the county if he does not have the personnel to bring in the revenue. He ask:d for reconsideration of the positions reduced in his office. If they do not have the personnel to put the value change on the assessment roll it will have to be done by correction to the roll, in which the paperwork exceeds the original time by two. Ted Cleveland, assessor's office, stated that he had projected the employee raises and benefits for the next five years. The cost originally came from the estimate of $160,000 per year and coming up with a reasonable cost for employee benefits. He did not project the increase. Page 193. August 26, 1981 August 26, 1981 81- Mr. Brown stated that the work. that would not be performed by reduction in staff ~,rould not be reflected until next year on the assessment roll. The roll figures must be obtained by March 1, 1982. Supervisor Dolan stated that both the Assessor and the Administra- tive Office had presented information to the Board. She asked for a comparison between the data provided by both departments when there are only two counties that are the same. Clif Nickelson, administrative officer, stated that the basic situation at hand with the entire organization for every agency in this county that is in any way responsible to the state or has the"state making reports is that their department is understaffed and the people are overworked. The courts show that the county should have at least one-half again as many number of judges. The Probation Officer is a good 50 percent of what the state recommendations are for proper operations. The•W~lfare Department has caseloads that exceed the state average. In other departments, the Board iaill find there is more workload and no additional staffing. It is not the Board's fault but a fiscal problem. There is no money to hire the people to do the job that the citizens and the state demand be done. Supervisor Wheeler stated that staff provided them with a report. On the report, one of the conclusions drawn that keeps coming back to her is _ the fact that the cost of operation of the Assessor's Office exceeds the revenue generated each fiscal year; $1,584,689 cost with $915,537 generated. Nr. Nickelson stated that was state wide. It is a problem the state will have to address because of Proposition 13. He did not think the Assessor's Office was generating enough money each year to cover for county governmental operations. Mr. Brown stated that he was also the assessor for the county, cities, special district and every entity that received a portion of the property taxes. If that dollar figure was taken it would be a dramatic increase. Proposition 13 only allows the counties to have a small portion of that revenue. Supervisor Wheeler presented a copy of the court findings of the County of Santa Clara and San Mateo versus the State Board of Equalization. She wondered how this court decision would effect Butte County. Mr. Brown stated that if that decision is upheld he would have to ask-the Board for extra help. That decision was that using the two percent from 1975 to 1978 was illegal. If a person still owned their property, they would get a refund. If they have to refund, it will cost every district and the Auditor will be in more trouble. The cost of the cheeks and processing would be more than the refund for 30',000.homes. CTsually large corporations do not change hands as often as single family homes. This would mean that every corporation, with all types of property values, will get refunds because the property is still owned. He felt it would cost the homeowner more than they get back in a refund. Mr. .7ohansen stated that the refunds were necessarily limited. three years. He estimated the figure at $1/2 million, if they go back recalculate every year from there on, it could be more material. Nr. Brown was asking that the Board reconsider six positions, auditor-appraiser and five real property appraisers. He used the o presented by the Administrative Office. He used those counties. did not ~eC:e'ssaxa~.y agree that those were comparable counties. Page 194. August 26, 1981 ~~ ~,~ ,i' :I ,,, August 26, 1881- __-- ----__---_ 8I= Gerald Lively, deputy administrative officer, stated that Mr. 3' Brown was talking about a one year old memo. The Board has in front of them a memo from their office dated August -12, 1981. With regard to the counties listed on the February 8, 1980 memo, those were counties that responded to the informational sheet. The information listed in the ', August I2, 1981 memo isa result of that informational memos coming to the Board. The comparison analysis is difficult at best and hardly any ', county is alike. From exhibit 5 on August 10, 1981 it indicates there are only three other counties with a workload like Butte County. He would hesitate to use those as comparable counties. Mr. Brown stated the reason fie had compared the counties he did was because they were referred to in the memo from Administrative ', Office dated February 8, 1980. He is asking that six of the eleven positions be restored. ' Mr. Johansen stated that with the eleven positions that were cut figuring a ten month period the savings are approximately $260,000. The savings would be $100,000 to $150,000 with the replacement of six positions. ' Consideration of the request was continued until all requests have been received. Library bud et, page 276 Jo Terry, librarian, stated that due to a resignation this year, he would be able to have:slighly less money than allocated if she were flowed to hire back two of the people who had been layed off. The cost f the person resigning is about $700 more than the replacement of the two ersons would be. One of the positions is a Librarian Assistant II and he other a Librarian Assistant I. She teas been talking with Administrative iffice and Personnel relative to the extending of the hours of the volunteers. 'here is a need to have regular employees to supervise the volunteers. he hoped to be able to do this and extend the hours. She is working zth the people in Feather Falls along those lines. There is a need for ,rained staff in order to take care of the CETA or volunteer programs. after the budget cuts were made there were a total of 29 people in the ,ibrary and she would like to make the positions 29-1/2 positions. Ms. Terry stated that it is illegal to have a cardholder charge. is no way to qualify for new state funding without the Board adding ,lll back into her budget. The Board would have to go for a ten ant cut instead of the twenty percent cut they approved. Consideration of the request held at this time. terans Memorial Halls.budget, page 284 James Hurst hoped that they could come up with a wt~rkable lotion for the Memorial Ha11s. CE55: 4:15 p.m. CONVENE: 4:31 p.m. WHEELER ABSENT AT THIS TTME Mr. Hurst stated he was a delegate of the Butte County Veterans council. He submitted a list of changes he felt could be made. He did not ;ee where the $81,816 in salaries and wages could be cut. They are willing .o reduce extra help of $8,600 to $3,000 with the veterans of various organizations taking up the slack. They have no control over employee Benefits. On communications they could encourage less use of the phones. Page 195. August 26, 1981 81- 5' August 26, 1981 SUPERVISOR WHEELER PRESENT AT THIS TIME Nr. Hurst felt that household expenses were in line with. what was needed. He had no idea about the general insurance in the amount of $11,180. On the office expenses of $101..00, they will try to reduce that amount. He felt they could reduce the utilities of $29,133 by turning off the lights or whatever is necessary. The halls are not just used by the veterans organizations, the county also uses the facilities as well as the state and federal governments. They have little control over the building when the government is using the building. The sprinkler system for the Chico Memorial Hall on page 298 of the budget in the amount of $6,500 is very necessary. .Without this expense it would cut down on the rentals of the hall and the opportunity to make money, The budget called for $8,500 for the Durham parking lot. He felt this could be reduced to $2,000 or less. The total of all the reductions could be $140,779. They are proposing that the rental fees be increased based on the cost of living annually to try to offset some of the costs incurred by personnel raises and other expenses such as lights and utilities. They are willing to work with the county any way they possibly can to reduce the figures. He felt this was the minimum requirements to operate the memorial halls. SUPERVISOR WHEELER ABSENT AT THIS TIME Chairman Moseley advised that the Board would be receiving input today and would consider the request at the August 27, 1981 meeting. SUPERVISOR WHEELER PRESENT AT THIS TIME The matter continued until August 27, 1981 for consideration. Sheriff Gil lick stated he had received a call asking if he wanted to discuss his budget today. It is impossible to maintain the level of law enforcement servicing the people in the county with the amount of reductions that has been reduced .from his budget. They are willing to confer with the Board and the Board's technical advisors to try to solve any problems if the Board is willing to do so. Supervisor Saraceni did not have any problems with trying to find a way to try to help with public protection. He felt the other Board members felt the same way. He would like to find some funds to help secure some of the jobs of the deputies that have received layoff notices. He would be willing to work wL'th them on this. Mr. Nickelson stated that if Sheriff Gillick can meet with his office in the morning before the Board meeting to sit down and figure out vhat the Sheriff is talking about and what the problems are and then come back to the Board with a report. Supervisor Dolan stated she had never heard that the Board was not able or willing to meet with department heads. That was the message that went out. Never has the message from the Board and Administration been anything else. If means holding the meeting tomorrow morning that is fine. The memo from staff indicates they have met with staff from the Sheriff's Department for the figures. This shows they have met all along. The matter was continued until August 27, 1981. Hearing open to the public. Appearing: Page 196. August 26, 1981 81- 3'. August 26, 1981 1. Henry McCall Mr. McCall stated that in listening to discussions relative to the cutbacks in the Sheriff's Department there was discussion about the'~oblems withrE.ropp~'tion 13. Since the-passage of Proposition 13 the assessed valuations have increased. He felt that-there is an alternative to putting people back to work and',that is limiting salaries in the county. There are people making $50,000 to $60,000 in the county that could not get that amount in the private sector. There is real concern if the Board is not willing to limit salaries within the county to $25,000 per year. He wished that the Board would address this issue. Mr. Johansen stated that the property takes for Butte County prior to Proposition 13-was about $11 million. After the first year of Proposition 13 the figures were $5-1/2 million and they'ar-e anticipating $7 million today. The only reason the county was able to survive was because the state took over the costs that they had before. The assessed valuations have increased since Proposition 13 but they are still not back to what the property taxes were prior to Proposition 13. Mr. McCall wondered why the Board had not addressed the issue of limiting salaries. Supervisor Wheeler showed Mr. McCall the budget and the information the Board-had received relative to the budget which was all part of the budget package to be able to balance the budget. She keeps hearing about taxpayers in the county. She is a taxpayer also. She felt that the Board was doing their job and a prudent one with responsibility. Supervisor Dolan stated that she encountered people she felt were overpaid, and others that were underpaid. They are talking about a $62 million corporation. People for decades have been asking for services to. the county. This is talking about the history of negotiations with the employee association and there are approved memorandums of understanding all in accordance with the law. For the Board to make a statement at this point in the budget with negotiations going on with the largest unit of employees with one that`s been settled is a snake oil solution: °In the long run she felt this would hurt the county in the quality of the services that are provided. They need to have innovative experience and need to have the salaries fall in the salary ordinance and they need to look to the people to see they are providing the services. There are dead heads. In the departments she had gone to, her experience is that the people are trying given the parametexs to provide services to the taxpayers of the county. Mr. McCall is attacking one part of the problem. If Mr. McCall wanted to talk about limits, then they should discuss limits on gas, utilities and food. The county is here to provide streets and roads and public health and safety. Mr. McCall stated that the Librarian had just been before the Board talking about the cuts and would like to have two people restored. She is receiving a $38,000 per year salary. The departments are made of people and not individuals. Many top salaries are causing people to lose their jobs. Supervisor Wheeler asked Mr. McCall i+f he:knew how many years it took of experience and schooling to become a Librarian? Mr. McCall stated he had talked to doctors and he felt the salary was excessive. Supervisor Saraceni stated they were going to see some changes. He felt there was a difference in some of the cases in some of the costs in local government. He felt the Board was going to make some moves to Page 197. August 26, 1981 Au~ust_26,_14.81 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ =====W=---=---------------------- 8T- ddress some of those .things. There may be differences in some cases in ~', he private sector. The funds are running out. 3. James Hurst. .Mr. Hurst spoke regarding the handout on age 15 relative to memorial halls. That handout shows an entirely different figure than_what he was aware of. The budget shows $81;81b in salaries and he handout shows $60,988. Mr. Johansen stated that the figures were calculated to continue he operation until the budget took place. Part of the funds had been xpended. This covers the balance of the year after the end of August. hat would all be less than what is shown in the budget. 4. William Houston. Mr. Houston stated that the power was granted to Congress to coin money and regulate the value of coins and f foreign coins and to fix weights and measures. That is the exclusive rights of Congress not the oil companies. The rea worth of money is *** ' hat it will purchase. Mr. Houston spoke regarding'the Consititution and the raising of money the county intends to borrow for building the libraries. Article 16 has a limitation and requires a two-thirds vote of the electorates. The amount of borrowing cannot exceed $300,000 except in case of war or invasion: The Sheriff is the senior elected official in this county and he should nothave to come to the Board on ands and knees. His prime function is protection of the people. He felt the allowable budget for the county was $34,100,000 only. Mr. ouston spoke regarding the accident he-had with a Butte County employee. e did not feel that the county needed County Counsel or his deputies. Supervisor Dolan stated that the Constition was a total document and separated the legislative and judicial branches. Mr. Houston has sued the county and therefore this requires that this matter be discussed in the judicial proceedings as the county has become defendants. 231p MOTION TO WRITE LETTER. OF PROTEST AND REQUEST FOR APOLOGY FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL TABLED UNTIL Al7GUStTT 27 1981 Supervisor Wheeler stated that last evening she watched the news on Channel 12 and heard the Attorney Genneral jump in the middle of Butte County`s budget and the Sheriff`s considerations. She was angered and appalled that the Attorney General, without obtaining facts, would interject partisian viewpoints into non~partisian politics in a local issue. She was angry that he gut himself into the county's 'budgetary onsiderations without his full knowledge of the situation. She would like for the Board to take a hardline position and ask him to retract his statements or apologize to the Board. Chairman Moseley stated she would like CSAC to know about the ®mments. It was moved by Supervisor Wheeler, seconded by Supervisor Dolan that a letter of protest and a request for apology be sent to the State Attorney General. Supervisor Dolan stated that the Board has never told the Attorney General how he should budget his office. ' Sup ervisor.Wheeler wanted the fact emphasized that the Sheriff's level has not been and is not being proposed to be cut. The level of services being proposed are a higher level. She felt that law enforcement was the highest priority. Supervisor saraceni felt that the matter should be considered rtomorrow as this has been a long ,;day. ', Page 198. August 26, 1981 81'~ b'. _ _ _ = W = - - _ _ = A~ust 261 1981 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Mr. Houston stated the Board was 140 percent over-budget xzow. He served an interrogatory on the Board and expected-the Board to answer it within ten days. On motion of Supervisor Dolan, seconded by Supervisor Wheeler and carried, the motion relative to the letter of protest to the Attorney General was tabled. RECESS: The Board recessed at 5:23 p.m. to reconvene on Thursday, August 27, 1981 at 10:00 a. m. 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