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Subject:FW: SYASL COVID-19 Update
Date:Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:35:19 PM
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Good afternoon – FYI from our State lobbyist.
Brian Ring
Assistant Chief Administrative Officer
Administration
25 County Center Drive, Oroville, CA 95965
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To: County Administrative Officers and Interested Parties
From: Paul J. Yoder and Karen Lange
Date: October 20, 2020
RE: SYASL COVID-19 Update
Please find attached our daily SYASL COVID-19 update.
-Paul and Karen
COVID-19 Updates
www.covid19.ca.gov
October 20, 2020
Newsom Administration - Resources / Mutual Aid / Executive Orders
Today, Dr. Ghaly announced that theme parks, live professional sporting events at outdoor stadiums,
and all personal care services may resume operations with modifications in Tier 1 (Widespread/Purple).
Personal care includes tattoo parlors, hair removal, and massage.
Dr. Pan provided the following update on the County Tier System:
o New counties in Orange (Moderate): Butte, Napa
o New county in Yellow (Minimal): San Francisco
o New counties moving back to Purple (Widespread): Riverside, Shasta
o Currently, three Southern California counties (Los Angeles, Riverside, and San Bernardino) are in
Widespread/Purple Tier
You may view slides from todays briefing here, and SYASL staff notes here.
Please check the California Department of Public Health website here for the latest guidance documents.
Evictions
Today, the Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency and the California Department of
Finance held a kick-off meeting for the Tenant, Homeowner, and Small Landlord Relief and Stabilization
Act of 2020 (AB 3088). During the meeting, they released a survey to offer feedback on elements within
each housing-related funding stream in proposed legislation where the State has decision making
authority. The survey is due by 5pm on October 30, 2020͵ You may view further details here and SYASL
staff here.
CAL FIRE-CCI Fire Prevention Grants Update
summer solicitation for awarding new projects in
state budget does not include grant funding from the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund for these grant
programs. Therefore, CAL FIRE will be unable to hold a new grant solicitation for the Fire Prevention
Grant Program unless and until a new budget is passed. View here.
Department of Insurance Investigatory Hearing
Yesterday, the Department of Insurance held an investigatory hearing on homeownersinsurance
availability and affordability. You may view the agenda here, and SYASL staff notes here.
Wildfires
Today, the Assembly held an informational hearing: Wildfire Mitigation Measures. You may view
hearing materials here and SYASL staff notes here.
October 20, 2020, here.
Kick-off meeting for Tenant, Homeowner, and Small Landlord Relief and Stabilization Act of 2020 (AB
3088)
Lourdes Castro Ramirez, Secretary of the Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency
Would like to acknowledge the leadership of the Governor and Legislature who created AB
3088 and the conversation taking place today
New law provides eviction protections regardless of immigration status
Protections are afforded through Feb 1, 2021
Data shows in August, 9% of mortgage owners were behind
One puzzle piece is ensuring people know the law
Our agency has created a set of comprehensive resources since law was passed
There is a new website created to make sure we are providing all we can to renters and
landlords
We developed an app in partnership with UC Irvine to allow tenants to be able to access
resource and protections under AB 3088
We need input and engagement
Jason Elliot, Senior Counselor to Governor Gavin Newsom
There were existing inequities and structural problems
Irena Asmundson, Chief Economist, DOF
20% of households paid 50% or more for housing and then the pandemic hit
If you are paying 50% in housing costs and one adult loses their job, they are instantly on the
edge of homelessness
There is a huge divergence in how CA is doing and how CA households are doing
We have problems that were preexisting before the pandemic that federal stimulus cannot fox,
it will help but not fix
Lynn von Koch-Liebert, Deputy Secretary of Housing and Consumer Services, BCSH
Federal relief act negotiations are extremely fluid and we are monitoring closely
HEROES Act 2.0 Housing Related funds
The survey will open this morning. See info below:
We will have more information tonight on what kind of timeline we will be looking at
We will produce a memo with feedback to the office
The survey is currently in English, we are working on translating into Spanish as well
Please take the survey and answer as you feel appropriate
The survey is not anonymous. Please identify yourself
There is a PDF of the survey so you can view it with colleagues before entering Survey Money to
take the survey
It is important to remember these are one time and separate from the annual programs though
they have the same name
There is a question on how should we best get the dollars out the door?
The state has proposed a framework based on the 4 keys with a couple of funding strategies for
each
There is an open field for you to add something if you feel there is something we overlooked
Need to identify projects that can be achieved within the 12mo time frame
For one-time investments that can create jobs and housing
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Survey is open and closes at 5pm on October 30
You can email with any questions
Q&A:
Q: Do you want one survey from each agency or multiple?
A: Just one would be helpful
Closing Info:
You can find all slides from presentation at www.BCSH.ca.gov/AB3088
Will reconvene this group again in mid-November to discuss where we are at in the process
To: County Administrative Officers and Interested Parties
From: Paul J. Yoder and Karen Lange
Date: October 20, 2020
RE: Survey Response Requested: Tenant, Homeowner, and Small Landlord Relief and Stabilization
Act of 2020 (AB 3088)
Today, the Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency and the California Department of
Finance held a kick-off meeting for the Tenant, Homeowner, and Small Landlord Relief and Stabilization
Act of 2020 (AB 3088).
During the meeting, they released a survey to offer feedback on elements within each housing-related
funding stream in proposed legislation where the State has decision making authority.
They also discussed how to respond to the survey. We have attached SYASL staff notes from the
meeting. You may also visit https://www.bcsh.ca.gov/ab3088/ for survey information and materials.
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survey as a whole, avoiding multiple responses, if possible. A PDF of the survey is available on the
website so you may review it with colleagues and collaborate on feedback before entering feedback in
the survey.
A follow-up meeting will be scheduled for mid-November. Should you have any questions, you may
email BCSH Housing at Housing@bcsh.ca.gov.
-Paul and Karen
COVID-19 Response and Statewide CHHS Update, October 20, 2020
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Thank you for joining us
Today we will give you data, talk through a question the Governor received yesterday on projections of
hospitals, update on guidance for important sectors, then tier announcements
Today
o 3,286 cases
7-day average
o 3,096
Total tests
o 146,662
Test positivity rate
o 2.6%
o
Many states across the nation are facing a new wave of cases
In CA the Blueprint for a Safer Economy is working and CA is not facing increase today
We must not let our guard down
Blueprint for a Safer Economy
o Slow and stringent
o Guided by data and science
o Sector based guidance
o Adherence to public health guidelines
Now short-
hospitalizations in a month
o Currently2,241
o Projected3,271
This is based on an ensemble of external models or forecasts to help give us directionality, all publicly
available at calcat.covid19.gov
o Theme parks
o Live professional sporting events at outdoor stadiums
o All personal care services may resume operations indoors with modifications in Tier 1
(Widespread/Purple)
Tattoo parlors
Hair removal
Massage
Theme Parks are a Higher Risk Setting than Outdoor Settings
o Higher-risk setting
Random large-scale mixing
Tens of thousands of visitors from broad geographic base
Visiting for a number of days
Promotes mixing and congregating
Many frequently touched surfaces
Significant impact on surrounding sectors
o Lower risk setting
Controlled large scale mixing
Thousands of visitors from same geographic base
Visit for a number of hours
Pre-assigned seating maintains physical distancing
Fewer frequently touched surfaces
Easier to monitor compliance at seated events
o Important guiding principles
Theme Parks
o Smaller theme parks may resume operations in Tier 3 (Moderate/Orange)
Limited capacity of 25 percent or 500 whichever is fewer
May only open outdoor attractions
Ticket sales limited to visitors in same county
o All theme parks may resume operations in Tier 4 (Yellow/Minimal)
Limited capacity of 25 percent
o All theme parks
Implement reservation system and screen guests for symptoms in advance
Face covering mandatory throughout the park unless eating or drinking
Professional Sporting Events at Outdoor Stadiums
o May resume in Tier 3 (Moderate/Orange) at 20% and in Tier 4 (Minimal/Yellow) at 25%
o Ticket sales restricted to customers within 120-mile radius
o Advance ticket sales and assigned seats
No day of or will-call ticket sales
o Eating and drinking in assigned seats only
o Face coverings are mandatory throughout the stadium unless eating or drinking
o Tailgating prohibited however parking at stadium is required
All requirements and modifications that we have worked hard on with industry and labor partners
Supports Blueprint
Look forward to more info that could be considered as we modify our approach
Turn over to Dr. Erica Pan
Dr. Erica Pan
o Criteria for loosening and tightening restrictions on activities
Every county is assigned to a tier based on:
o Test positivity
o Adjusted case rate
o Health equity metric
New counties in Orange (Moderate): Butte, Napa
New county in Yellow (Minimal): San Francisco
o Benefitting from health equity metric
New counties moving back to Purple (Widespread): Riverside, Shasta
We continue to make overall progress in our slow and stringent reopening
Three Southern California counties (Los Angeles, Riverside, and San Bernardino) are in
Widespread/Purple Tier
Based on lessons learned from focused Central Valley efforts, the state will partner with these counties:
o Increased testing resources in key areas
o Isolation resources
o Community-based Organization partnerships
Also, community-based leaders
o Business education and enforcement in partnership with CalOES, Business, Consumer Services
and Housing Agency, and the CA Department of Food and Ag
Move counties forward
Simple acts can make a big difference for COVID-19 and the flu:
o Wear a mask
o Maintain six feet of distance
o Wash our hands
o Minimize mixing
o Get your flu shot
Dr. Ghaly
Thank you, Dr. Pan, thank you public health in those counties for the partnership
Looking forward to what we can do together to address transmission
Help those counties and continue to carry the state forward
Next weeks critical
Questions
As far as the number of visitors
limits? Concern with impacts of people travelling from far away?
o It was really the nature of the smaller amusement theme parks is that they are local activities,
o For all those reasons we set that difference
o These are places where we are today as we carry through and learn lessons from what happens
in the near future, it may change our approach
For theme parks, how did officials arrive at dividing line between small and big theme parks? Response
to never opening again?
o We did look at capacity and nature of venue
o Capacity limit at 15,000 or fewer
o In SF County, large county very visible lots of different types of communities, they did today
reach the Yellow tier
o Many other large counties can reach this as well
o We will be helping now in larger southern counties to help them progress
o Larger counties are moving to yellow and we believe it is possible
o Require a lot of work and vigilance
o Support isolation in serious and real ways
o No part of our population is lagging
o We believe it is possible
Could you give some more insight into what is going on in SD and other counties teetering between red
and purple, some hospitals want credits for keeping rates low, why is that not happening?
o Some counties are on the cusp, moving back and forth, moving deeper into the red tier and then
they have an increase
o In larger urban counties, you can see spread happen in dense settings
o Close contact with SD county for many weeks
o Make sure their info is right and each week we walk in and wonder which side of the threshold
we will be on
o Tremendous amount of testing will continue to be done
o
o Blueprint allows us to look at things and loosen and tighten up as necessary
o Could you repeat your second question?
o About hospitalization numbers, we have had lots of conversations with health professionals
about a hospital preparedness metric, we decided against it but we do track it
o We track staffing issues, they are absolutely numbers we track
o In order to forecast where a county is and a tiering system, looking at hospitalizations is too
lagging an indicator
o Though we want to support hospitals, we know that if the case numbers themselves are used,
we believe there is a much clearer view
o use those metrics
o We did in the past
About youth sports, is there any movement here?
o My kids ask that all the time
o We are very interested in that
o Working on that now with entities that operate youth sports
o Each of the sport has its own independent story and we are working hard to get it right
Can you talk about why CA is doing better than you expected and whether you still expect the pandemic
to worsen in CA, is your tier system working?
o You said better than expected, this is what we expected
o We ex
expect this to work and support the public health messaging, we have worked hard to hold onto
o Taking lessons from earlier parts of the response
o Takes two weeks be-4 weeks
o We understand being outdoors is important
o All of the lessons have been incorporated
o Happy with progress made, but with every day we can see something change so we want
Californians to continue to keep their guard up and limit activities as much as possible
o
o We are prepared for all scenarios but compared to other parts of the nation, our approach is
helping us but I have to give credit to the Californians that continue to support us and carry us
through, unlike other parts of the nation and globe
There are hundreds, thousands of bay area college students studying on campuses, how much of a
concern is it when those students start to return to bay area for thanksgiving or winter break, how much
of a concern that they may be asymptomatic carriers?
o Many cases with that story
o Someone has tried to do a pretty good job of avoiding, but they end up going home, they are
asymptomatic and affect someone who is older than we see hospitalization and death
o It is a concern; we ask people not to just use testing to give them a sense that it is all clear
o We need to maintain guidance protocols, limit mixing, keep face covering on, avoid high risk
environments
o Young students need to keep their risk down
o I would caution against creating a potential spread or transmission
o Very important and many national leaders are raising caution
o More on that
under capacity, main difference under your guidelines is it could operate attractions, is that correct?
o To second question, yes main difference is around attractions and some of the capacity rules for
specific parts in operating Zoo or Museum
o
o Lots of work we can do together to make sure we reduce transmission and there is a path
forward there
o
o One county at a time
Can you elaborate on the vision you see for assistance to the three counties? Team of enforcers? Will
you try to deal
o These are moments of partnership
o DPH is working closely with public health leaders
o Form of support will take many forms
Tailored by needs identified by local leaders
o Capacity, hard hit businesses and communities, focus on enforcement where we know
transmission is occurring
o Lead on support, compliance, education
o Support of community-based organizations that have strong connections to communities and
can support acceptance and understanding of things involved in contact tracing
o Not replace county efforts
o Making sure state staff continue to support county efforts
o Add bilingual staff
o Portion of it will be around support of isolation and making sure counties have the resources
they need to make sure those that can be isolated have the resources to do that
o Things like separation curtain, whatever it takes to limit transmission
o State is committed to increase efforts in those counties
o We hope we see those counties move into the red tier so businesses and schools can consider
reopening
It appears SD County has a week of purple data; can you confirm and are you considered about
transmission in that county?
o The second part of your question, absolutely we are concerned with transmission everywhere
o SD is excellent at tracking outbreaks and that sort of knowledge allows them to have early
warning flags for intervention
o In some ways the notes of caution they provide is a fantastic tool to be able to communicate
clearly
o We did, to the first part, the adjusted case rate has been brought down
o Hovering between fine line to make sure data is right
o Transmission rates need to stabilize
S
we head into the depths of the flu and cold season?
o
o When the conditions the county meets the threshold that considering some in-person education
is safe
o Make sure schools are in partnership with local health authorities so cases are identified quickly
and schools know what to do
o There will be cases at schools, that will happen
o To put the tools available and to make sure we are committed, we believe schools can make the
o Ask important questions, thoughtful return
o As a goal, many of you know that both Dr. Pan and I are pediatricians and we care deeply about
this
o That said, if the decision is held to wait a little longer, we are willing to take part in all of those
Who will monitor theme parks and what would trigger closure?
o All of the same procedures are all in place and will continue to be the responsibility of the
theme park
o We will ensure our public health teams and local teams have access to the parks to make sure
there are no material violations
o If through the normal process of working together, we are not able to meet the needs, following
public health guidance, there will be standards and enforcements and potentially things to lead
to partial or full closures
o County transmission is important to follow on this
You mentioned guidance for professional sports, for collegial sports, what guidance is there?
o At this time, we are starting with professional sports but we will look at the experience and
understanding how to use this new guidance to inform
o urrent plans to release guidance for spectators at those events
You mentioned that personal services are moving into tier 1, given that tier 1 is limited, what is the
rationale?
o Again, these are all parts of small, often small operated and well controlled environments where
modifications can be put in place that reduce risk
o We feel with modifications that all of those services can be like tier 1
o Now week 7 and we listened thoughtfully
Ghaly (Close)
Privilege to answer and update
Exciting announcement by Governor on expanding testing capacities and tools around that
As always, I wish you a safe and happy afternoon
Asm. Bud Sub #3 re Wildfire Mitigation Measures
October 20, 2020
I. Opening remarks and introductions.
Bloom
Good to see you all here on the opening day of the World Series, some of us will pay attention
Welcome you all and thank you for being here, no action taken today just informational
I think you all know that there are numerous aspects of wildfires that need to be discussed
We have limited focus on wildfire prevention, specifically about investments
Talking about fire prevention, we usually talk about fuel reduction and proscribed burnings,
while normal for areas with fuel loads
Might not be the same for areas in Southern California
We will look into complexity and regionality
Allocated millions for fire prevention and resource management, in contrast with 2.3 billion for
But we need to fund fire prevention and fire reduction measures to protect property and
prevent fires from spreading
Time to take a serious look and the gaps in funding and ways to improve
ome back next year to have the
same conversations again
Friedman
Thank you for allowing me to participate, Natural Resources will have hearings, including
th
November 9 at 1 pm
Certainly in reducing GHG emissions, contribute to fire issues, I believe state and local
government need to embrace strategies more meaningful
Reyes
Want to thank you, for putting on timely hearing
Shown that climate change making wildfires less manageable that past years
Coming from community with poor air quality, the increased pollution from bad air quality
concerns me
We need more suppression efforts and make them more equitable and sustainable
Mullin
I see a number of members if climate working bond, may be opportunity in 2022
These climate issues will continue to be prevalent and look forward to robust discussions
I know wildfire mitigation would be big part of doing anything on that front
Bloom
Thank you for reminding me on our efforts to pull together effort to fund items we will be
talking about today
Effort that ended up not going anywhere was a precursor to have the discussions today
II. Historical and current funding levels for fire.
Your staff asked that I provide introduction for hearing focused on States fiscal augmentation
for wildfire prevention and mitigation
This handout on LAO w2ebsite
On handout, provide context for severity of wildfire problem, on the map see 26 fires that have
been top 20 largest or most destructive since CAL Fire be tracking data
How many have been in the most recent years signals a trend
Point out geographic diversity, have many large destructive wildfires
Context on illustration, talking about wildfire related activities, we talk about wide range of
efforts
In prevention and mitigation, number of activities undertaken, we have funded state grants for
forest health, we have dedicated state staff that do proscribed fires, we also have staff that
review wildfire mitigation plans from utilities
Page 3, thinking about spending increase at CAL fire, the bulk of their budget, see over past 15
years increased from $18 million, to estimate of $3.3 billion
Base fire protection budget, grown steadily, emergency fire spending and you can see this
varies from year to year
Last week administration released report on the E-fund, spending $1.8 billion which is all time
record for that
Note, you will see for 20-2
include discretionary plan
Turn to page 4, staff asked to provide summary on augmentation for fire response and fire
prevention and forest management
Large augmentations, fire response, replacement of helicopter fleet
Augmentation for relief staffing also
Under fire prevention, SB 901, require GGRF to fund forest health and proscribed fire health
totaling $200 million
Last section of the handout, options available to increase funding should you choose
Options;
o Looking at general fund, maybe redirecting resources to spend more on forest
management or fire prevention
o Look at new taxes for fees to support mitigation
o Can look at general obligation bonds to provide forest management resources
Page 6, thinking about weighing options, first is really around identifying what activities you
want to fund, wide range options to take
What activities and at what level, is that one-time revenue or ongoing revenue sources
Important to think about who should pay, often you want to think about who the beneficiaries
are
As example in thinking about wildfires, we saw how much the air impacts this year went far
beyond the WUI or wildland areas
Looking at improved forest management can impact better water quality and management, so
you can think about water districts and agencies maybe contributing
Think about polluter pays, looking at utilities and how they have contributed to fires in the past,
been focus by legislator in the past
There are no free lunches, trade-offs, redirecting funds that means fewer resources for other
priorities
Looking at GO bond option, but this is one-time source, recommend using infrastructure and
not use for ongoing operations, also have to repay with interest over time
Bloom
government.
There should be interest at the federal level
Are there existing places to turn to for funding or will we have to go to congress?
Brown
We know the feds on most of the areas, but not much federal funding provided to
states to do this type of work
Sometimes we receive federal mitigation grants, after disasters
Note in light of disaster we will probably see mitigation funds over the next few years
The legislature could get more engaged in how money is prioritized
Reyes
In documents, points out fire prevention in state budget, given existing obligations and costs to
COVID, what new revenue sources should the legislature consider addressing the gap?
Brown
example of the right revenue source is
If you want to fund forest health, clearing and making healthy, or protect homeowners with
fees revenue to protect communities
You could look at different revenue source depending on what you want to accomplish
general fund
Bloom
What was amount of money generated on the SRA fund?
Also could you speak to the funds lost I think were replaced by cap and trade, have we been
able to keep up?
Brown
In neighborhood of $40-50 million, extension of cap and trade program
The SRA fee eliminated with cap and trade backfilling the revenues, for cap and trade, the SRA
backfill comes off the top similar to continuous appropriations and is continuing to be funded
Bloom
Even in the lean auctions we had a year ago, the $40-50 million was funded
Brown
Fortunately the prior auction was able to cover as well, in current fiscal year the first quarter
auction was better in May, we will have to see how the next auctions do
Because SRA comes of top, we are confident it will be fully funded
Rivas
You have been discussing my concern, on the fire management is coming from auction
proceeds, how do you anticipate we fund the prevention and management if auction is lower?
Brown
The things not being funded now are the forest management grants
You are right, if auctions bring in little revenue, may not be able to fund all things we have
been, if this is the case there are some options
One option, revenue comes in go into fund, may not have discretionary expenditure plan
If less revenue, will have to make choices on what to prioritize, if that is forest management
grant it will take funds away from other areas
III. Fire risk mitigation needs are dependent on variety of factors.
Nick Jensen, Lead Conservation Scientist, Native Plant Society
Thank you for this opportunity to present, I am lead conservation scientist with plant society
Talk about relationship between wildfire, native plants and climate change
As native Californian, I feel for the communities who have suffered in the wildfires, I also feel
for the firefighters and other who protect
Inheriting almost impossible situation, including land mismanagement and poor decisions
plants, evolved with fire
We are out of balance today because of complex reasons
Spent time working in Tahoe national forest, I realize every project at that time was tied to
wildfire and our mismanagement in forest management
Pulled invasive species to north of truckee, it is invasive plant and is tough to deal with,
introduced on fire fighting equipment but is directly tied to fire as well
Thinking back to time period, we thought 20K acres was huge, now it wont make the news
Governor Newsom recent EO, called attention that California is one of the world biodiversity
hotspots
Nearly all species, common and rare have adapted in habitats where wildfires are rare, each
have their own response to fires
Solutions we here is forest and fuel managements, its much more complicated than that, I think
woodlands grasslands
Habitats are complex, and our approaches should be diverse
Talk about forest, chaparral and grassland
Likely you all have one of these in your district
The story of wildfire is linked to native flora of our state, how fire behaves on landscape related
to plants
Many forest areas, once burned at greater frequency, in Sierra Nevada area is thick with small
trees, this is denser than we would have observed a century ago, this make later flows, which
can contribute to fires reaching the canopy
We need more fire in these areas, fire that is the right kind, there is room for optimism,
listening to scientists and Native Americans and implement actions beneficial to habitats, like
proscribed wildfire we can have win win situation
Talking about shrub lands, dominated by shrub lands known as chaparral, occur in many places,
prominent along the coast and in Southern California
Plays large role is habitats and need fire at the right moment, but in contrast they have
experienced to frequent of fire interval
Fires like this can have drastic consequences, if fire return to quickly, invasive plants like native
grasses can take over, leads to type conversion and leave habitats more vulnerable to wildfire
Proscribed fire is not such a good thing and accidental fires need to be reduced in these
habitats
Need to focus on community preparedness and home hardening
Lets talk about grasslands, wildflower super blooms to perennial grasslands, or wetlands, often
interspersed with other habitats
Most grassland plants evolved with fire, typically would have been low to moderate intensity in
the past
Unfortunately has been developed or converted into agriculture
Often these non-native grasses act as flashy fuels
Organizations worked on effort toward large development areas in high risk areas, Centennial
Ranch in LA County
Also worked on community in Lake County, designated in high fire severity zone
Same area in southern half slated for development burned in fire
Shifting gears talk about interplay between plants and climate change, climate change adding
fuel to the fire, want to be honest to separate the effects from natural phenomena and lighting
strike that occurred and the historic drought
I will say things like all of these have been around for long time and may just be exacerbated by
climate change
Ideal burn condition with higher temperature and lower precipitation, start to look at this
legacy of forest mismanagement
In non-forest habit
wildfires, due to fact that it is always hot enough and dry enough for fires to occur in southern
California
Essential pressure deficit acts as giant sponge, climate change has something to do with this,
the climate has warmed
Population increases so will fire starts, unless we change the way we act or plan future
developments
Want to leave you with conclusions, need to plan measures with nature and with biodiversity in
mind and tailor by region
Solutions like proscribed fire good for forests are not good for chaparrals
Emergency fuel breaks can be conduit for invasive species, especially if not maintained in the
long run
Like to emphasize changes we can do now, need to correct funding imbalance between fire
prevention and suppression
We know wind driven fires are most destructive, these fires require integrated approach,
prevent fires in the first place
Need to do better job planning and enable to say no to development in high fire risk areas
We need to ensure communities already existing are resistant to wildfire
Hope to leave with optimism, time to learn in listen, this is all hands-on deck moment, we also
need to go beyond simplistic fuel management and do tailored approach to habitat
Bloom
Ask you on speaking about need for planning, where and how you would recommend we
change planning efforts?
Jensen
There are other areas in the country related to like flood risk, high disincentive for development
in these areas
At some point may be faced with decision to do similar thing related to wildfire risk
Could do more to disclose to wildfire risk to potential buyers of homes
I really think it should be upfront in those decision-making processes
Bloom
What about at state level? Are we structured the way we need to be to address these issues
you have identified?
Jensen
Blanking on the bill that would have banned development in new high fire severity zones, this is
something my organization supported, that is a step the state could take
Friedman
Outside of home hardening, do you have ideas about community wide resiliency?
Second discussion about fuel reduction, less conversation about types of fuels, and how
communities can look at fuel type?
Last is fires near my area can be related to non-native plants and mixed in with others, and are
more fire prone, do you have ideas on how this can happen to change out?
What do we do to deal with this and get back to native plants?
Jensen
On community wide resilience, individual community could be made stringer if there was truly
defensible space, could include plant landscaping
Or planning for wildfire mitigation measures
Home hardening is big deal, and enabling homeowners to create
Maybe some sort of grant or low interest loan program for people to do the things needed
Some cases where non-conventional approach, but maybe the best thing we can do is envision
what we want to see out of the WUI and then talk to scientists and talk to fire prevention
professional and develop integrated solutions for biodiversity and community prevention
Getting rid of invasive species is easy to promote
Reyes
In one quote the most catastrophic have been wind dominated fires, clearly, we cant control
certain things
When I hear about what is happening with climate change and homeowners that want to
develop in fire prone areas, takes away some of my hope
But it is clear to me, we need to have the scientists and those who have studied and have
people like you at the table
Is it zoning, planning, is it a ten-year plan, or turn things around, what is it that we need so the
State can achieve some normalcy toward fires?
Jensen
There is a real aspect of people are desperate at this time
I know there is a struggle to come up with solutions
amount we can do to prevent them from progressing
Home hardening is he part of the solution, defensible space is a big thing
We need to have discussion honestly of building on these high fire risk areas
prevented new homes from being at risk
Maybe we can incentivize conservation over development in these areas
Reyes
In the literature for forests, said proscribed fires and thinning, for grasslands you say home
hardening, then you said for chaparral
When I talk about ten-d to look to the future, are there things we
can do to put together than long of plan and who would be in it?
Jensen
Focus on the forest portion of this, on prescribed burns and work with federal government
Could start that now and invest in the future
We also can start now as fire season hopefully dies down, start getting to preventative
measures, includes community preparedness and home hardening
Time to start preparing for fire season when rainy season starts, lots we can do and invest in
things
Rivas
effort, is there region we are doing well in? or ones where we need to focus efforts?
Jensen
We can take lessons from national parks, like Yosemite where they have been doing forest
management for decades, you will see conditions of those forests are much better
There are examples on where we have done really good things
I would say as we get to areas that are in the WUI, the communities at risk, we could do better
job to prepare these areas for wildfire
Ting
You mentioned addressing dramatic funding imbalance, what would you propose in terms of
wildfire prevention?
Jensen
We spend large amounts of fire suppression, and less on prevention
Easy step would be to bring those two closers together
If we do preventative measures it becomes cheaper to suppress these fires, we have
Could relieve firefighters as well, for them to work for months and months on end and have
fewer houses burn
Ting
One area we could reduce out of state resources we bring in
One of the challenges have been regarding vegetation management or proscribed burns, or
finding people or organizations to execute it
If we increase funding, do you believe organizations or people could absorb he scale?
Jensen
I think we can, it may take a little time
We also have opportunity to fund workforce development, also younger people who have
grown up with wildfire crisis that may jump at opportunity to be part of the solution
Michael O'Connell, Executive Director, Irvine Ranch Conservancy
We are nonprofit organization in Orange County, spent 13 years with the Nature conservancy
Also serve on Dean leadership council at the University of Irvine, been working in Southern
California shrub land for years
We manage about 30K acres of locally owned public land in Orange County and goal is to keep
the land healthy and resilient
As we began managing the land, we did analysis to the threats, no surprise the biggest threat is
too frequent of fires
Leave you with one point, California has two fire challenges, we are resourced and structured
to address only one of them which is the fuel dominated fires
Fuel dominated fires have to deal with too little fire and past practices that have created tinder
box and making them larger, driven by fuel loads in system
Solutions often vegetation management
Important to know, ignitions are not necessarily human causes with fuel fires
Spend time talking about wind dominated fires, fires in Southern California fire driven by strong
season winds, usually independent of fuels
Wind fires are nearly impossible to suppress from traditional means
In our system, fires occur 90% more than natural return intervals
We are getting fires in these systems every 7-10 years, this causes many problems, causes
conversion of harder to burn fuels into more flashy fuels
Also important to know in wind dominated system, 99% of fires are human caused whether
accidental or not
Fire prevention is paramount in wind driven system,
infrastructure, 10% occur during wind events become catastrophic damage
When looking for leverage and solving the problem, in wind system, leverage on ignition
prevention in wind dominated areas
If we can prevent or reduce ignitions during the 24 days a year, we have made huge difference
Ones that occur outside wind events are usually easy to suppress
We have two fire problems and spent most of our time trying to address the conventional
forest fires
Talk to you about what we have been doing to try and deal with that
In 2013-14, Orange County fire Chief recognized that this is a problem for the fire department
to solve alone
He convened group that we call the County of Orange Safety Task Force, many stakeholders
and everyone who has part in working on wind driven fires
We want to reduce frequency and severity of wind driven fires, my role in this is to facilitate the
group
We have developed common agenda for what we are trying to get done
The tricky thing is because it is not fuel based solution, means there has to be multiple groups
together
Similar with utility, bring San Diego Gas and Electric and Edison to the table to work together
The last thing I want to mention is what are the solutions we are working on?
Three things, heard about most of them today, all three must be done to get ahead of this issue
o Ignition prevention during wind event, along roadways, power lines and in areas that
are hot spots
o Structure resilience, 80% of structures in OC do not meet basic fire codes
I live in high fire prone area in OC, I put screening over my vents, I turned and looked at my
next-door neighbor, she had cedar shake all over, and I thought there is my fire problem
We have communities not prepared for fires is what this shows
The cost of fixing my neighbors house, someone who cant afford it
Have program funded called Orange County Fire watch, my organizations train the volunteer,
we have 350 volunteers, during high wind events their goal is to prevent intentional ignitions or
report other ignitions
This program in place since 2007, enhanced from grant to build monitors that work as fire
watch towers
I cant say we have this thing licked, but we are all working together and that is the only way we
will solve this
Bloom
The issue of ignition on roadways, this has vexed me, what strategies are being considered to
deal with that serious issue?
Sources are often complicated, we had one where a catalytic converter burst, and lit at least
dozen places
We have had people pulling off into tall grass
If you focus on sources of ignition you will drive yourselves crazy
We think about hardening the roadway, if you make it more difficult for fire to get off the road
We need to think about roadways not pathways, they almost need to be like closed tunnels
You could remove vegetation in certain places, or restoring heavier fuels in certain areas
The main thing is we need to harden roadways to prevent ignitions from getting off them
Bloom
Maybe suggest that we also need to educate motorists
Could be role for Caltrans in this and DMV, may be conversations we want to have going
forward
Sounds like you have made a lot of progress on solutions within coast, what are the next steos
to implement plans?
Getting everyone to collaborate and share the agenda
Everyone is being responsive to the problem, bringing people together is key
Identifying solutions is also important, the next step also is that these solutions need to be
resourced and structured
If we have solution to bring through Caltrans, it needs to be resourced and structured to
implement
Looking at the funding and policy solutions
Friedman
Question and observation
It seems to me, as much as there are many sources of ignition that road crews seem to be
responsible for a fair amount of ignitions
I suggested a few years ago that these crews would have to have small fire extinguishers, do
you have thoughts on whether that would be useful?
I would note, we are not trying to prevent every ignition, only trying to prevent the ignitions
during wind events that become catastrophic
If a fire is started with no winds, our department in OC are well resourced to get on those fires
Should we be doing maintenance or landscaping during wind events, probably not
That is where you can focus
I know District 12 of Caltrans have made changes to policies and practice to reduce roadside
ignition and doing training on crews knowing how to use fire extinguisher
The problem if there is one spark during wind event, that can be catastrophic
catastrophic
Friedman
Rethinking the planting is something interesting you talked about, and maybe use native plants
as a firebreak
We have cycles who clear cut everything off the hill, and often nothing acts as buffer between
Importance of plant material and I believe is something we should focus on
People are not going to do the research into it and is the wrong thing
Garcia
On the education outreach on individuals, can you describe education to individuals around fire
prone areas and what has been successful there?
work with do lots of education
Main thing people have been trying to get residents to realize that the emergency is when the
wind starts blowing
Example, Caltrans and toll road agency, use light up signs to educate motorists and other
programs like Ready Set Go
Having said all that, there needs to be more education like event based, and long-term
Garcia
I know you left us with figuring how to fund work and panning, do you have idea of how it will
be done?
One of the things we have looked at is that in Southern California many counties are contract
counties, I think the challenge we have is the wildfire apparatus has been built around fire
management and fire prevention and lots of work is being done on the ground
Funding local authorities that is result of collaborative
to suggest sources
There is a huge amount in value in fire prevention, particularly in the wind systems
Reyes
When we talk about wind and climate change these are things, we control, then we have
to deal with prevention and planning
What zoning or planning policies would be helpful if stakeholder committee put together, who
should be part of that?
I would say with a couple of things, that climate change being the driver
With wind driven fires, the wind will always be the problem, climate change may make it worse
With solutions, they remain the same
I have hope, because unlike a lot of other natural disasters, this is a preventable problem
I think the people who need to be at the table are the ones who are responsive to this and
share responsibility for the fire problem
With planning I will say I think we need to stop building in areas that are fire prone
If we never build house int eh fire prone wildlands, the estimate of houses vulnerable in WUI,
went from 300K to over 3 million
Nothing changed except our knowledge of the risks
We have to work on those communities already there and address the fire front
Reyes
One comment you made is with your group that there is no finger pointing, in the end we want
to find solutions and find as a group what are the best solutions and I appreciate that
Thom Porter or representative, Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
I am the state forester for California and the Director
Talk about wildfire mitigation measures, stay concise on my notes and allow for questions to fill
in the gaps
Talk about fire season, still in the latter stages of peak season, not over yet
We are over 8500 fires started in various types and places; every piece of the state has been
impacted
We have collectively burned more than 4.1 million acres
August complex still burning, over 1 million acres
31 lives lost and right now we have six of the 20 largest fires that have occurred
The siege started just before the lightning happened
We had a few fires that had team deployments, near Fresno and Gilroy, those fires started
things off
Once we had the lightning siege had over 14K strikes all across the state
That siege, been compared to big burn of 1910 and more than doubled that event
Then we had Labor Day, that weekend gave us winds, and caused fuel driven fires that started
to grow
Those are some of the challenges we were seeing, I know you have seen more, but this was
trying to summarize what happened
I wanted to come back to the importance of the all of the above approach
Talking about mitigation, it is all of the above approach, this year shows that fire can and does
occur throughout the state and from Oregon to Mexico and can be anywhere at any time
Certain populations are vulnerable to wildfire threats, many live in wildland urban intermix and
WUI and those areas are vulnerable
We have programs to reduce threats, one is defensible space and home hardening
Cities are also not out of the woods, we have Oakland, Redding, Santa Rosa very much
vulnerable to wildland fires during the wrong type of weather conditions
Adapting to wildfire requires all of the above approaches, means we need to identify and map
fire hazard zones and protect neighborhoods and communities
We need planning and communities that plan for resilience and green belts
We need to ensure communities have proper evacuation routes water supplies, and resources
Building homes out of ember resistant materials and maintaining defensible space and
removing vegetation
We are not talking about moon scaping
No task or program is a silver bullet, I believe the previous speakers talked to this, this is not
and easy problem to fix
We need to as practitioners need to have all the tools to tune the ability to reduce threat to the
community appropriately over time
Need to include maintenance once we have system in place
Fires are dynamic and can be dominated by wind at one point, then move to fuels fire
We have fires in oak woodland and grass intermix, recently as the SCU complex, almost entire
state park burned in that event
Lots of good fire occurred there, tragically too many structures burned in that event though,
but is example of chaparral fire burning
Wind can be something that helps with ignition, but it also can cause in other cases ignition of
other types, many are electrical, some are arson
Example of Riverside County fire, burned upslope and approached Idyllwild, that fire glanced
off of that and was held
Thomas fire is another example on fuel reductions on where fuel reduction, reduced in
intensity and was rendered controllable on heel of the fire
Wind driven system is something we are going to continue to contend with, once we have a
system in place, we can hear fires around communities in method to live with wildfire as
opposed to living against wildfire
Complex system, the only thing we will be able to do is develop systematic approaches and
reduce to our communities through a myriad of options
Want to talk about our programs, I know you are aware on how CCI funds, and thank you for
the Lao analysis
We have three places where the fund sypher into, fire prevention, grant fuels projects, forest
health management and pieces and part of SB 901 and that holistic approach
Prevention piece is how do we reduce the threat of fire in and around the community, in some
cases around the home, we have programs we can work with those vulnerable
Our forest management programs pointed at larger landscape level management and reducing
threat of wildfire tearing through forests
The combination of programs gives grant opportunities throughout the state, we have grants
for these processes and programs in 48 of the 58 counties, we look to increase those numbers
We look to projects that have co-benefits
we need to do the work
We are working with Native Californians and they are the indigenous people who have
ecological knowledge that we are funding them to increase management of the landscape and
throughout the state
We are managing a system and embarking on decades of work that need to be done under this
system
Point of interest, we have a climate goal to meet with these dollars
Forest management for 2019, second most important work to sequester or store carbon,
second only to climate smart agriculture
This really does make a difference; we need to look at the value we are gaining
This department is placed and uniquely staffed and running resource management programs,
reforestation programs, fire prevention programs and fire engineering programs and others as
well
These are all working together to develop holistic approach with decades long view and a
picture of the future that is Californians living with wildfire
Mullin
Thank you for your good work and I appreciate the call for an all of the above strategy
Broad question, there have been high profile examples of fire sparks on national forest land,
how can we ensure stronger collaboration between utilities and state agencies on both public
or state lands and private land?
Porter
It is an ongoing effort, the CPUC and wildfire threat reduction program is part of the answer to
this question
This is the first year and it is just starting to stand up
That whole department will move under the resource agency and we are working
collaboratively and working through requirement with bankruptcy with PG&E
we need to look at what the vegetation looks like that can cause fires, also need to ensure
hardening of infrastructure and electrical system is occurring and we are doing that
Friedman
want to verify that Cal Fire prevention programs are not currently being funded right now, what
did we miss by not funding these?
Porter
that is an open item, I believe the legislature will be looking at that item, the only piece
occurred is the piece that covered the shift of funds after the SRA fee went away
that there is a partial amount of funding that will come to us
the book is open on that
Friedman
What other projects would be successful in Southern California to utilize Cal fire local assistance
and grant program?
Porter
I will follow up with you, give you answer we will work with communities to tailor their
projects to fit one of the programs
Would be interested to see if they have conservancy partners or other fuel reduction
treatments for restoration of natural habitats
Reyes
Want to thank you and the men and women who work with Cal Fire
When we talk about educating the community
Thank you for using one word which is hope, mentioned this early and seeing what is
happening and things that are out of our control or regulate
Knowing we have to do something together, there has to be a plan and asked this of the others,
who were the stakeholders to put together a plan to take us to place of protection
Porter
a
better job or more interaction
examples to protect communities
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matters to you
These are things that are broad, and we need to use as example to educate right now and have
a culture
VI. Public comment
Humboldt and Mendocino Redwood Companies
Applaud the state and GHG emission reductions, however we need to give serious attention to
land and forest amendment in the state
Have three suggestions
o First, we need single individual responsible to organize projects around the state
o Second thin thinning is important, we need to reintroduce proscribed fire, and establish
limits on liability for landowner
o Third we believe biomass will have to play a role
Look forward to working with your subcommittee and the Natural resource committee
California Air Pollution Control Officers Association
Highlight importance for air pollution grants and other work required by 260
Having significant impact already
Investment provide public health improvements and cost savings
Endangered Habitats League
The elephant in local land use, structure built to new codes burn anyways
The legislature must limit local discretion for building in the fire zone
Could stop subsidizing state responsibility areas
Why continuing to issue FAIR plans for new homes in fire zones
Vegetation treatment will spend billions that are ineffective in wind driven fire, make Cal Fire
follow existing law and follow code to stop type conversion
Legislature should convene scientific panel and enforce the laws being broken on the books
Adjourn
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